Jan. 15, 2025

"Does DEI Require Starving Our Troops?"

"Does DEI Require Starving Our Troops?"
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In light of the Senate Comfirmation Hearing for Pete Hegseth to be the next Secretary of Defense, it's a perfect time for Dave to talk with fellow vetern and American Thinker writer Mike McDaniel about his recent column, "Does DEI Require Starving Our Troops?" Mr. McDaniel discusses the severe shortage of food for the enlisted force at places such as Fort Hood (currently known as Fort Cavasos), a 335 square mile installation consisting of over 200,000 personnel, where only two of the base's 10 chow halls were open daily during the summer months. This required over an hour's trip by troops just to get lunch during the duty day. Meanwhile, at Fort Carson, one soldier posted a photo of his dinner at the chow hall, which consisted of a single serving of lima beans and a half-piece of toast.

As Mr. McDaniel and Dave both observed, this is what happens when limited resources and manhours are spent on "boutique causes" like DEI training and the infusion of Critical Race Theory throughout the Armed Forces rather than maintaining the military's focus on the core mission of being the most effective and lethal fighting force on the planet. This is a conversation you don't want to miss.

This episode all features some thoughts on the dumpster fires that the outgoing Biden administration is lighting for the American people on their way out the door. Oh yes, and Dave is a tad giddy over some new devlopments (artwork, music, a new microphone and upcoming improvements) for the podcast, ...and he won't stop talking about them. Don't say you weren't warned...

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Storyteller the story of Hell.

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It's Dave Carter and this is the Dave Carter Show.

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I am Dave Carter, and I'm delighted and honored to

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welcome you to the show today. As you can tell

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from the new intro music, change is brewing here on

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the Dave Carter Program, and I'll geek out more about

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all that later on in the show. I'm absolutely nerding

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out about all the new gadgets and all the things

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are up to, and we'll get to it all.

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Might assure you that you promise you.

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Coming up in a few minutes, mister Mike McDaniel from

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The American Thinker will join us to talk about his

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recent column entitled does DEI require Starving our Troops, in

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which we learned about the growing difficulty and even the

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inability of some elements of our military to, you know,

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adequately feed the enlisted troops. You may have heard the

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saying that an army marches on its stomach, and if

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that's the leading indicator, and history suggests that it is,

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then we got some problems. So we will be talking

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to American Thinker contributing writer Mike McDaniel coming up. But first,

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as the days wind down before President Elect Trump's inauguration.

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As our forties havent president, the progressives are getting restless

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for a variety of reasons. It turns out, Senator Chuck

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Schumer of New York was recently asked if the Democratic

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Party has lost touch with the very real concerns of

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American people and what his party can do to reassure voters.

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And here's what he had to say.

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And we really didn't show the kind of empathy and

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concern to average or show enough of it to average

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working families who didn't realize how much we had done

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and how much we care for them.

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So that's the problem, you see, we just didn't understand

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what a great job Schumer and other progressives were doing

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for us. And I'm not speaking here as a partisan. Actually,

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I'm a registered independent. I left the Republican Party when

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George W. Bush was president, so I want what works.

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But I do think Schumer's argument runs the ground on reality,

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because it's not terribly helpful to tell us that we

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just didn't realize how much they cared when what they

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did was released violent criminals into our communities, destroy the border,

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strengthened and embolden our enemies raise food, energy, and housing

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costs to insane levels and then tell us not to

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believe what we were seeing with our own eyes. And

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that's their idea of showing us how much they care.

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By that measure, the Tieneman Square massacre was just a

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good will gesture from the good folks at the Chinese

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Communist Party. But Schumer is saying there's nothing wrong with

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the policies because they care for us. See if good

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intentions produce disastrous results, well that's okay, because the intentions

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are what counts. We mean well, but we do ill,

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so we justify our ill doing with our well meaning.

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That's how you get massive wildfires in California? Now, isn't

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that enlightened pun intended? All you have to do? As

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David Stockman at the Brownstone Institute Rights is inact policies

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that quote essentially curtail the water supply available to LA firefighters,

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even as they have drastically increased the supply of combustible

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kindling and vegetation which feeds these wildfires. The latter, in turn,

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are being amplified by the seasonal Santa Ana winds which

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have visited the California coast. Since time immemorial. The kindling

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at issues them from forest management policies that prevent removal

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of excess fuel via controlled burns. It goes on to

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say red tape and bureaucratic obstacles. They are frequently delayed

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or prevented controlled burns, allowing brush, dead trees and other

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flammable materials to accumulate excessively. Next you elect, you elect

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state and federal politicians that simultaneously curtail the supply of

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water available to Los Angeles firefighters in order to protect

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so called endangered species. So you see they mean, well,

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of course, the place is on fire. Multitudes of people

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are homeless, destitutes, some are dead, but the delta smelt

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and the Chinook salmon are in good shape. And politicians

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think that voters should take all this lunacy in stride

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and be grateful for the ongoing mismanagement. Speaking of politicians,

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here is Lameric Karen Bass reading her PEP talk to

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the city.

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But make no mistake, Los Angeles will rebuild stronger than

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ever right now. If you need help, emergency information, resources

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and shelter is available. All of this can be found

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at you are l Los Angeles together is how we

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will get through this through the heroicism of our firefighter.

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God, just stop it. You are l You're in a crisis.

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Your house is on fire, You've nowhere to go. Old

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literally has gone up in flames. And the mayor says,

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go to U R L WTF I mean, as my

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friend Brian Russ says, knock it off, And as Mark

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Levin said, we have fire hydrants out of water, an

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LA mayor who was out of town, a governor who's

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out to lunch, and a president who is out of

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his mind. Karen Bass, Gavin Newsom, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris

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represent the best the left has to offer. Now, think

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about that for a minute. Progressivism and its ideological Siamese

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twin dei are nothing more than the canonization of mediocrity

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and incompetence. So what happens when voters wake up and

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realize that much more of this stuff was going to

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kill the country, so they vote for the other party instead. Well,

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what happens if you're Joe Biden is that you do

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the opposite of what voters have asked for. For starters,

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you release eleven Alcada terrorists from Guantanamo Obey, including two

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of Osama bid Ladd's bodyguards.

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That'll help.

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So I'm sure we'll be hearing more from those fine

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fols in time. Then, as a response to American demands

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for American energy dependents, Joe just banned new offshore drilling

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off the US coast because you know, it makes sense

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that when energy prices are skyrocketed for Joe to curtail

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more energy production on his way out the door. But

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he's not done yet, because, according to the Washington Free Beacon,

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Old Joe has also banned natural gas water heaters.

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Get that.

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The move, which the Biden administration announced the day after Christmas,

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will take approximately forty percent of new tankless water heaters

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off the market, raising the price of available heaters by

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an average of four hundred and fifty dollars per unit.

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Because you know, you're not broken off already, and because

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we'll Democrats care about you, don't you understand that? Oh yes,

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And let's not forget Joe's commutation of thirty seven federal

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death row inmates sentences, sticking you with the costs of

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lifelong care, feeding and for murderers and rapists. Because it's

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a question of if it's a question of victims or predators.

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Jove and his fellow progressors will side with the predators every.

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Time, giving a big view to the victims.

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You're having a tough time enough, trying to make ends

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meet and put food on the table, So they're going

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to use your money to feed murderers. That's how much

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they care about you. Then there are the various partons,

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to include one he promised he would never do. It's

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not a question of Hunter's guilt. He pled guilty already.

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But there's one system of justice for regular folks and

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another for folks whose last name is Biden. So what

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we have here is a collection of mediocrates who can't

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govern with the crap, who run the country into the crapper,

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and then who crap on the country when they lose

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an election. They could have asked themselves some basic questions,

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like did they misunderstand what voters needed and wanted from

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their public servants? But instead they concluded that it was

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you who misunderstood, That it was you who failed to

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grasp the superior ideas and dictates. If the philosopher kings

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of the progressive left, because you know they know what's

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best for you, and demand that you bend your life

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to their many rules and commands, which brings up another question,

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is Joe really orchestrating all this? He can't orchestrate a

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sentence at this point. The odds are greater the Jimmy

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Carter will stand up and walk around. Then the odds

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are Joe Biden expressing a single thought without mangling it?

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Is it the cabal of puppeteers and precious Little faculty

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lounge fanatics that are pulling the strings? As Greg Guttfeld

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said a few days ago, right.

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Now the White House is essentially a bunch of sullen

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brats fighting to get Daddy to sign a will that

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gives them all the goodies they ever wanted. Out of anger, arrogance,

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and disbelief that they didn't outsmart all of America. They're

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grabbing what they can as they go out the door

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like a smash and grab.

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At k jewelers.

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Now they could reflect on what they did wrong and

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do better, but they're not interested in changing, only destroying,

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and by doing so they remind Americans why they went

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with the other guy. It's quite a disparity in this transition.

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It's a contrast unlike any I've ever seen. Have you.

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The incoming guy is determined to do the job for

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Americans to reciprocate your trust in him. You defended him,

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you fought for him. Now he's doing what you expect

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him to do. The outgoing guy, he's a cardboard corpse

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employed by unnamed radicals, not to save America, but to

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punish it. And you, the American voter, have no impact

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on their desires. But wasn't that always the case with democrats?

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It's just that now everyone sees it.

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Now, did you catch the analogy to looting there? I

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think we're seeing some comparable things here. One of them, yes,

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is comparable to the marauding gangs of idiots who run

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into a business and ransacked the place before scarrying back

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onto whatever rock they came from. But the other psychosis

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in play here reminds me of an incident that happened

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on a Sunday afternoon years ago when I worked at

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a watch repair store in the mall. I was the

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only guy working there on Sundays, and a man came

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in with his son, who must have been around six

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or seven years old, I guess, and the man was

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looking around at some watches while his son walked around,

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picking things up and pushing chairs around. The kid basically

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did whatever he pleased while his dad was clueless. We

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had a table clock in the store, basically a four legged,

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round wooden table, at the top portion of the table

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being made of glass, and under that were the hands

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in the dial of the clock. So Junior there decides

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he wants to sit on the table. The kid tries

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to jump up on the table, and I immediately tell

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the little angel not to do that because the glass

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won't support his weight and he'll get cut up when

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he crashes through the glass. That's when Dad awoke from

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his stupor and chied tod me for disciplining his son,

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and I explained that the boy really isn't allowed to

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do just whatever he wants in the store. So Daddy

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gets more irritable, and frankly, so did I, so much so,

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in fact, that I had finally told him that he

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and his little angel needed to leave the store or

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I would call security, and I actually picked up the

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phone to do exactly that. When Dad told his kid

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come on and proceeded to storm out the door. The

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kid followed Dad, but before he left, he shoved the

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plexiglass display tower full of watches. Now, the tower didn't fall, thankfully,

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but the kid managed to knock over all the watches,

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knock them all right off of the thing. And of

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course Dad never broke stride as he and his future

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convict left the store. The Biden administrations is a lot

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like that devilish little brat in the watch store. There

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are a peevish, petulant, petty little bunch of half wits

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who suffer from a persistent sense of their own inadequacy,

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and they're doing their best to punish the American people

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for rejecting them. In a few days, they won't matter

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and they know it, so they are going out in

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a blaze of destruction.

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Newsmakers, celebrities, authors, pundits and people.

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To all here, all on the Dave cards showed well,

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have a decent civilized conversation.

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All right, now, let's talk for a bit about military

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readiness and joining us is mister Mike Daniel.

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Mister McDaniel is the writer at American Thinker.

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He's a US Air Force veteran, a classically trained musician,

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a Japanese and European fencing instructor, lifelong athlete. He's also

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a retired police officer, firearms instructor, and has taught English

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at the high school and college level, and it's a

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pleasure to welcome him to the program. Good morning, mister McDaniel.

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Well, good morning. Very nice to do to have me on.

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It's a pleasure to have you here.

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Man.

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That's a wide variety of experiences.

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You had my word, Well, I've been busy.

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I understand I've had some varied experiences as well, to

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which a friend of mine asked me at one point,

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he said, what you can't keep a job or what's

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going on?

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You know?

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But it keeps things interesting, right absolutely.

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You published an article in the American Anker last week

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called does DEI require starving our troops? And it describes

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what seems to be a pretty dire situation regarding the

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availability of food military chow halls.

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You're right.

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Quote, a military that can't get its troops where they

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where they Let me try that again. A military that

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can't get its troops where they need to be on time,

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and they can't provide them with the food, water, munitions,

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and other gear they need to fight is going to

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lose unquote. Is this a problem that's primarily sented in

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one branch of the military, or is it widespread across

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the branches.

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Well, from what we're seeing, and again keep in mind

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that I'm working primarily from media sources, so lord knows

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how accurate they are, but there's plenty of them, and

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it would appear that this is pretty much across the military.

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always tended to be a very fighting force and they

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really focus on the basics. But the ultimate problem is

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when you focus on DEI, that disrupts everything about the military.

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Any military force has a chain of command and very

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clear lines of authority. If troops aren't being fed on

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say Fort Hood, which they now call Fort Cavassos, if

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the troops aren't getting their food, then the commanding officers

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should be able to say, Okay, Lieutenant Smith, you're responsible

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for this. Why the hell aren't our people being fed. Well,

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when you have DEI, you do away with merit to

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begin with, You do away with responsibility. The chain of

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command becomes convoluted because you essentially have the kinds of

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political officers and civilians and political positions that you used

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to have in the old Soviet Union. They're the people

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who determine everything. The chains of command, the chains of

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responsibility fall apart, and even the smallest things that military

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needs to function properly fall apart, things like feeding the troops.

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Yeah, and you brought up four hood in the in

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the article as well. For whatever they're calling it today,

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Fort Fort. How do you pronounce that again?

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Cavas?

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Okay, all right, Sundnight anyway, Uh it Evidently you're right.

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The base had only two of its ten major dining

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options open every day for much of the summer, with

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three others open only during limited times. The closures forced

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many soldiers to drive long distances across space, sometimes an

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hour round trip for their meals. I mean, I honestly,

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I would expect to read about lack of food available

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for the troops in places like North Korea, you know,

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or maybe past segments in the in the Russian military,

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but American Armed forces, I mean, from the time that

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you could go to the chow hall, and I mean

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you could.

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Eat till you explode and they would still have plenty

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left over.

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You know.

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It's just it's otherworldly, really, it just just beggars the

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imagination how all this was allowed to take place.

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Air Force. Now that was about way back in like

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the fourteen hundreds in nineteen seventy. But the chow halls

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were open pretty much twenty four to seven because the

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troops worked pretty much twenty four seven, right, you didn't

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have people adhering to a very specific dinner and lunchtimes,

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et cetera, et cetera. And Fort coven I just hate

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to call it Fort Covezo's Fort Hood, thank you. It's

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two hundred and fourteen nine hundred and sixty eight acres,

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that's over three hundred and thirty five square miles. And

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they had only two dining halls open.

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That's that's just amazing. And it limited hours.

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Apparently when I was in I started out on the

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end the Air Force and security forces. So you know,

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we had we had a graveyard shift, and same with firefighters,

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the medical folks, and they were they needed to eat

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whenever their shift was. They had designated times and they

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need to go get some food and you know, relieve

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the other guys so we can go get chow.

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It just goes on and on and on. I just again,

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it's it's it's insane.

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There's a photo that you shared in the article, taken

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I imagine by a soldier at Fort Carson, I believe

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it was. There's a photo of his dinner one night

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at the chowhul consisting now get this, folks, consisting of

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one serving of lima beans and a piece of toast.

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That's it.

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So what what do what do military officials have to

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say about the situation? Are they, you know, chiming in

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on what's going on, or do they just you.

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Know, oh, yeah, absolutely, and I should note that was

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half a piece of toast.

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That's true, that's true, Yeah, yeah.

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Oh absolutely. The troops are definitely complaining, and that's one

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of the things that the military is always understood. If

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you want to keep the troops from complaining too much,

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and of course there's always some amount of complaining in

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the military, do you feed them properly? And you have

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to do it certainly just to keep them functioning, especially

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in a combat branch that's a very high calorie occupation, right, Well,

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are the ideas the civilians that you need about two

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thousand calories a day just to keep functioning well? Multiply

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that many times when you're talking about people who are

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actually training for.

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Combat, right right, I mean you can't.

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You can't live on on MRS alone, at least not

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not state side, when you've got to train and all

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kinds of things are happening. We used to call those

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meals rejected by Ethiopians. We said, that's what the Mr

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e parts diood for. Oh yeah, but this stretches across

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something else as well. You and I veterans, we know

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what it was like when we were in and shortage

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of food for the troops that joh Hall just was unthinkable.

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And now that it is, I wonder what folks our

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age and other veterans are telling their family members, the

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younger folks who are thinking about signing up. I mean,

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they can't even guarantee they'll keep our our family members fed,

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let alone equipped to go fight a war or train

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properly to do it. So is this having a downstream

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effect on recruitment?

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Do you think?

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Oh, there's no question about that. I mean, it was

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bad enough when people are saying, hell, I don't want

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to spend my military career being hectored on what a

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racist I am. Now they're saying you can't even feed me,

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Oh sure, I want to sign up for the military.

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Yeah, I mean you might as well go to fight

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for North Korea at that point, because they're starving their

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troops because they have best just the way that it

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works over there, it ought to be better over here though.

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Well one would think so. But one of the things

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that we quickly realize as citizens in America is a

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government has no conscience. Now that changes to one degree

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or another between Republicans and Democrats. Republicans tend to be

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more concerned about losing their jobs. They tend to be

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more responsive to the public. Democrats, especially when you involve

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DEI client and make those things priorities rather than actually

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serving the public, totally eliminates any reason for them to

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be responsive to the public at all. And you quickly

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realize that when you say, well, I have rights and

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you should be feeding our troops, Well, they don't care

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about that. They care about climate change, they about they

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care about DEI and CRT. We're seeing that played out

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in the fires in California right now. The place is burning.

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But hey, it's not their fault. They didn't have anything

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to do with it. Nobody's responsible. Even the LA police

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chief says, oh, I don't know how water gets to

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the hydrants. We only worry about it after the water

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comes out. Well, Dark's chief, maybe you really ought to

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be a little concerned about that and talk to that

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seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year Latina whose

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main concern is DEI and try to figure out how

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to make sure when you open the high there's some

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wander there.

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Well, and I was thinking about that. Actually, I was

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reading some articles on the fires in LA and the

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kind of policies that played various roles that resulted in

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the disaster over there. And it may have been Victor

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Davis Hanson, I forget who, but someone noted that officials

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at the city in state level in California spent enormous

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amount of valuable time and resources pursuing what they call

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boutique causes DEI pronouns LGP D D E I, E

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I O or whatever it is. And that was time

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and resources that should and could have been invested in

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the core mission of government and first response agencies, which

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is keeping citizens safe. They lost track of that and

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now is catastrophic. So I guess I'm asking I guess

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an answer to the question the answers itself. I guess

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is can the same be said of the Department of

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the Defense in general at the present moment?

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Well, absolutely, we are. Well, let's put it this way,

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advanced technological societies have certain luckies that lesser societies don't have.

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Despite what the Democrats would tell you, not every culture

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is the same. And if you have a society with

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billions and trillions to burn, well, of course we don't,

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with the Brocus nation in history, but they pretend we do.

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Then you can afford to go off on these boutique causes.

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You don't have to worry about little things like feeding

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the troops and making sure the troops have enough ammunition,

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making sure that there's enough fuel so that the Air

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Force can fly their planes. And when you start doing that,

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one step over that line allows people to take a

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lot of steps over the line, and we end up

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with well, and we've been watching the Haig Seth confirmation

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hearing yesterday, we end up with a very very different

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view of what our military is and what it should

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be doing. The last four years have turned it into

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a social experimentation laboratory, and Seth and true, heg Seth

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and Trump wished to return it to a fighting force

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whose job is to destroy our enemies as quickly, finally,

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and efficiently as ponsible.

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One of the things that I'm really enjoying about an

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interview here is you are literally anticipating my very next question.

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This is really cool, kind of you, kind of this

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is great. We're we're like we're dancing on in the

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lall room for something. Did you watch any of the

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Secretary of Defense here in yesterday with hegg Seth.

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Yes, I did.

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What was your thoughts on.

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What you saw? Well, it was pretty much standard. The

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Republicans asked actual questions, questions having to do with policy

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and intentions, and the Democrats just screamed obscenities essentially and

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screamed about, well, you know, when did you stop beating

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your wife. It was pretty much a standard sort of thing.

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But again, you see the difference between substance and intention

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against being an effective fighting force and having the appearance

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of being effective fighting force. It turns out that DEI

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really isn't our strength, and.

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The opposite of deterrence is well, what we've seen for

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the last four years, which in Bolden putin to head

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into Ukraine and Iran to be well flushed with cash

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thanks to US. But we have embolden and I actually

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invited our enemies to cause all kinds of trouble. So

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I would think that they would take a close look

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at what's happening right now and rethink their ways, I guess,

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I hope.

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Well, that's an interesting question too. Probably my favorite comment

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about this sort of thing occurred. I believe it was

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just the day after, or maybe the day before. I

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don't recall which, but the National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan.

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If you look in the dictionary underfeckless lightweight, you'll see

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his photographs. Right absolutely, but just before or after the

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October seventh attack on Israel, he came out talking about

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how the Biden administration's policies had made the Middle East

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more peaceful than ever before. Yeah, we talk about talk

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about bad timing.

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I mean that.

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Yeah, that's like stepping on the rake and hitting getting

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hit right in the nose. With the stupidity of it all,

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it just it came back to bite us, but certainly

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the Israelis. So do you think that the problem with

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respect to logistics and uh and and supplies weapons munitions

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and certainly food at this point, do you think that

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would be addressed pretty quickly under a secretary of Hegsath?

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Is that going to be a long term thing or

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is it going to be going to mop that up

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pretty quick?

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Well, he'll get on it immediately because he, unlike many

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of these people, understands that logistics is really what matters.

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The old military term is that amateurs talk strategy and

471
00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:55.559
tactics and professionals deal with logistics. Is very true. The

472
00:25:55.720 --> 00:26:00.839
problem is the Biden administration has given away huge amounts

473
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:03.759
of our say one hundred and fifty five millimeters artillery

474
00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:08.160
shells to Ukraine, some to Israel, lesser to Israel than Ukraine.

475
00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:10.759
If you just Taliban too, I think, oh.

476
00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:14.799
Well, well, thanks to Joe, the Taliban has some of

477
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:18.799
the most advanced military equipment in the world. Now, we

478
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:21.440
used to own the night We gave away tons of

479
00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:25.160
night vision equipment and I mean the newest generation night

480
00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:27.559
vision equipment, so we don't even own the night over

481
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:32.039
there unbelievable the kinds of idiocies that we've been dealing with.

482
00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:35.079
And what's going to happen is they're going to have

483
00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:39.960
to spool up our capacity to build all these munitions

484
00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:43.559
which we have let fall apart as well over DEI

485
00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:47.640
and those kinds of boutique priorities. So yeah, it's going

486
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:49.799
to take years for us to get going, more than

487
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:52.920
just one presidential term for us to get to the

488
00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:55.759
point where if we actually got in a war, we'd

489
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:58.680
have munitions for more than say, a week of active combat.

490
00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:01.920
Right of the things that I really like about the

491
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:06.160
nomination of Hegseeth This maybe may sound a bit parochial

492
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:09.119
on my part, but my last sixteen years I was

493
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:12.599
active duty. I was an active duty historian, So I

494
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:16.640
worked directly for wing commanders and sometimes numbered Air Force commanders,

495
00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:18.559
that kind of thing, and so I was able to

496
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:21.440
see what goes on in the stratosphere of those ranks.

497
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:25.640
I'm just giddy doing a happy dance over here at

498
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:28.440
the idea that a war fighter, somebody who's been who

499
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:31.559
has chewed the mud too, would be in charge of

500
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:34.839
the second of the Defense Department and give some perspective

501
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:37.039
that I think has been sorely lacking over the decades.

502
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:41.000
Well. Absolutely, and what's going to be interesting is to

503
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:44.920
see the follow through that the Trump administration has. It's

504
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.359
not enough for example, to have Doge. It's not enough,

505
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:51.279
for example, to have someone like Pete. He sat at

506
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:54.319
the top of the Defense Department. What's going to be

507
00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:58.400
really important is after they tell the Defense Department, all right,

508
00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:02.400
you get rid of DEEI Ruten Branch, wipe it completely out.

509
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:05.759
They're going to need people who are dedicated to following

510
00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:09.720
through on that and if necessary, firing the people who

511
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:12.640
are resisting it. I saw an article the other day

512
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.759
that said something like eighty percent of federal workers are

513
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:20.079
planning how they're going to resist Trump. Well, yeah, there's

514
00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:23.000
going to be people who make sure that those people

515
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:25.359
find new employment as quickly as possible.

516
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:25.920
Right.

517
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:28.319
The air traffic controllers resisted Ronald Reagan too, and we

518
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:31.079
know how that worked out for him. Oh yeah, So

519
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:35.079
I just last question here, and I just just just

520
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:37.519
popped up in my head. I listened to the voices

521
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:39.640
in my head. Sometimes it make sense, but sometimes they don't.

522
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:43.920
Over the last four years, the way the military has gone,

523
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:46.599
if I had if my son, for example, said hey, Pop,

524
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:49.079
I'm thinking about joining up, I would have to think

525
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.720
long and hard before I would have endorsed it. And

526
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:54.319
over the last few years, I think I would have said,

527
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:55.960
you know, you may want to wait this out a

528
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.519
little bit. Have you thought about that or maybe you've

529
00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:01.039
been counted, maybe you've lived that question. But what would

530
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:04.400
you counsel folks. It's different now that that we're going

531
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:06.720
to have a change of administration, But over the last

532
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:08.000
four years, what would you have told them?

533
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:12.519
I think what you're going to see is the way

534
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:16.279
that many people think about buying a new car. When

535
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:19.359
one of the manufacturers comes out with a new model

536
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:23.079
or just a complete revision of an existing model line,

537
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.680
many people will not buy that car the first year

538
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:30.440
because they want to see the bugs get worked out. True,

539
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:31.960
they don't want to have to go to send it

540
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.599
back for two or three recalls because they didn't get

541
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:38.519
things quite right right off the assembly line. And I'm

542
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:40.799
afraid what's going to happen is we're going to see

543
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:44.440
a year or two of that sort of thinking, as

544
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:48.480
people pretty much wait and see whether the military really changes,

545
00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:52.680
whether the Trump administration is really able to not only

546
00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:55.440
tell them how things are going to change, but to

547
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:59.400
ensure that those changes have actually happened. Now I hope

548
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:02.359
to some degree I'm wrong about that. I think that

549
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.119
we were seeing a lot of people just because Trump

550
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:09.839
was reelected. That's changed the world. He's not even an officer,

551
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:12.759
ye right, yeah, yeah, And I'm hoping that some of

552
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:17.680
that effect will roll off into recruiting. But I think

553
00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:21.039
once we start seeing some articles and some information, some

554
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:24.160
word of mousetouts getting out about how hey, the military

555
00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:27.279
really is changing. If you want to be in the military,

556
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.079
you really can be a war fighter again, I'm hoping

557
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.400
that that may change things pretty dramatically and pretty quickly.

558
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:33.880
You know.

559
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:36.920
Actually, now I think about it. I signed up in

560
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:40.279
nineteen eighty three, and one of the things that was

561
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:43.839
a catalyst for me mostly and mentally making that decision

562
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:47.359
was the Grenada operation. I mean, it was a small thing,

563
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:49.440
but man, we got it done. We were back, we

564
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:51.160
were taking care of our folks who were going and

565
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:53.920
getting them and if somebody didn't like it, that's too bad.

566
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:55.039
I thought, I like this.

567
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:56.799
I like this, Okay, I want to be a part

568
00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.559
of what's going on because this is important. This is

569
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:01.880
something that I can do that would actually contribute and

570
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:03.400
make a difference in a positive way.

571
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:08.079
Well, yeah, absolutely, And I signed up in the early seventies,

572
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.720
which was a bit different. Was very much. The Cold War,

573
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:13.920
and I thought the Cold War from the United States,

574
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:18.160
but I think most people in those days signed up saying, well, okay,

575
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.279
I can get some discipline, some responsibility. They'll pay me

576
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:23.799
for doing this. I can run around and do cool stuff.

577
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:26.720
I can learn a trade, and they'll pretty much leave

578
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:28.920
me alone and force me to do that stuff.

579
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:31.960
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Folks.

580
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.640
If I hope you enjoyed the conversation I have, I've

581
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:36.720
really enjoyed this. We need to do this more often.

582
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:39.200
This is fascinating, Mike.

583
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:41.200
If folks want to find pleasure, thank you, sir.

584
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:43.319
If folks want to find learn more about you or

585
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:45.559
find your work online, where where should they go?

586
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:47.279
Uh?

587
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:51.680
Well? I also blogged my own blog at stately McDaniel

588
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:56.119
manor well, yeah, which I decided is this kind of

589
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:58.680
a takeoff on the Batman thing stately way Man.

590
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:00.079
Yeah, okay, all right.

591
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:03.400
You can find me there. And also I write an

592
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:08.319
American Thinker. If you just enter Mike McDaniel American Thinker

593
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:11.440
in a search engine, that'll turn up my archives of

594
00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:13.480
all my articles there. Well.

595
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:15.680
Actually, I've been reading your articles for some time now.

596
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:17.720
American Thinker is one of my go to sources for

597
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:19.559
the columns in the podcast and things that I do.

598
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:22.160
So I've very much enjoyed your work over time, and

599
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:24.759
but this one, this one, especially when I saw that

600
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:28.319
hideous photo of a scept serving of a line of

601
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:30.839
beans and a piece of half a piece of toast.

602
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:35.440
I mean that was in I mean that's all in

603
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:38.599
God's name. Can any officer who's in charge of making

604
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:42.559
sure the troops said look at that and not feel

605
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.920
incredible shame and why they aren't the people ahead of

606
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.319
him just saying, what the hell is wrong with you?

607
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:49.720
Why is this?

608
00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:55.440
Well, hopefully we've got some well well much needed changes

609
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.119
coming down the pike very soon. This has been hugely

610
00:32:58.200 --> 00:32:59.960
informative and a real treat talking with you today.

611
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:03.599
Thank you, sir, Thank you. I really appreciate it. Folks.

612
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:06.200
That's Mike McDaniel on the Dave Party program.

613
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:36.960
That dude, it's the coolest ever.

614
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:44.559
Today. All right, let me ask you a question here.

615
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:47.799
You ever heard of this app called Notion.

616
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:51.400
Well, it's a productivity app and it won the Editor's

617
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:54.240
Choice award on the Apple Store. And here's what they

618
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:56.759
had to say about it. Is your mind wearing away

619
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:58.960
with all the things you need to do at work, home,

620
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anywhere in between. I mean, give your brain a break

621
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:04.400
by logging your thoughts in Notion now. Notion is a

622
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:06.920
digital notepad which you can jump down all sorts of

623
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:11.920
information private entry, private pages for list random thoughts, diary entries,

624
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:14.719
or shared ones for documents. You'd like to invite friends

625
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:16.559
and colleagues too, so you can collaborate.

626
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:18.360
Now.

627
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:20.199
I'm not being a paid paid a dime for this,

628
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:24.199
but I should be, because Notion is just good enough

629
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:25.800
that I'm happy to talk about it for free.

630
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:26.840
And that's the way it is.

631
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:29.159
I mean, it's not great for monetizing the show, but

632
00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:31.920
screw it. It's a great app. I actually learned about

633
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:33.480
it from my friend Brady Keel when we were talking

634
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:36.079
about the Ricochet meet up in Panama City Beach last month.

635
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:41.800
Something organize my thoughts and projects and stuff. And he

636
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:45.159
told me about Notion and some other app. And I

637
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:46.760
don't know what the other app was, but I checked

638
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:49.639
Notion app and it has become my go to source

639
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:52.960
just about everything I do, from organizing writing projects to

640
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:57.320
podcast episodes. I use it for my public website. My

641
00:34:57.440 --> 00:34:59.199
work schedule was there. I mean, it's like having an

642
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.519
extension of your that automatically updates to all your devices,

643
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:05.239
so I can update something on my iPhone or iPad

644
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.960
or my iMac and it shows up on all three devices.

645
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:12.199
Notion is a software application I'm reading again, by the way,

646
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:16.119
that provides an all in one workspace for note taking

647
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:21.400
and project management. It allows users to create and organize notes, databases, tasks,

648
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.360
and calendars all within a single tool.

649
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With a free, free plan, you.

650
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Will have a comprehensive, intuitive, customizable productivity tool that you

651
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:33.079
can work as your digital brain, help you organize your life,

652
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:34.679
track your finances.

653
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:35.480
And a lot more.

654
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:38.119
They got templates all over the place for this thing,

655
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:42.440
and I now have a template with a massive resource

656
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:46.320
library on Notion, for example, where I keep hundreds of articles,

657
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:49.599
video clips, audio clips and more, all for use in

658
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:53.159
writing columns, doing podcasts. I got a private journal on Notion,

659
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:56.960
a shopping list, a dashboard page with a master calendar,

660
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.519
weather conditions, forecasts, inspirational quotes each day that keep me

661
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:04.039
out of jail, project summary is more, all on the

662
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:10.880
same page. Multiple templates for writing, workspace, podcast workspace, reading list,

663
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:13.360
quick notes, project planner, habit tracker, and more.

664
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.800
I mean it's just it's just nuts, y'all.

665
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:19.920
That ain't all because Notion has an incredible AI feature

666
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.320
that will help with writing or simply answer research questions

667
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:23.880
and a lot more.

668
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Forbes called Notion.

669
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AI's everything app, and the cost nothing for personal use.

670
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Create as many documents and notes and content as you want.

671
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.119
Since I use it from a public website, I pay

672
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:39.760
like twelve bucks a month for it, just pocket change basically.

673
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:42.440
But if you want to use it for your personal convenience,

674
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you pay zip ziltch zero.

675
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Not a nut in. So check it out. Go to

676
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the Apple Store, Google Play, What's My call in? Or

677
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:53.519
just do a web search for Notion. See what other

678
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:55.199
people are saying. I'm telling you're going to love this

679
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thing to death. There's Notion. So check it out, y'all.

680
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:17.159
For the person who has everything, it's antibiotics. No wait,

681
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:20.360
it's Dave Carter on Ricochet.

682
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:22.440
Now.

683
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:25.880
I promised to nerd out a little bit here on

684
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:28.639
this new equipment that I got, So in addition to

685
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:31.079
some new music, I also sprung for a new broadcast

686
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:35.679
mic and this, in my opinion, is the Macdaddy of

687
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:36.760
broadcast microphones.

688
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:41.480
It's the R E three twenty ev dynamic microphone.

689
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:41.760
It was.

690
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:44.559
It is between the R E twenty, which has been

691
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:48.039
the workhorse mic and broadcasting forever, or the R E

692
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:50.880
twenty seven mic, which is really good. It's got a

693
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:52.840
much more it's got a more lively sound to it

694
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.360
than the R E twenty in my opinion, or at

695
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:58.559
least r the R E three twenty electro voice mic,

696
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:00.639
which is what I got, and again in my opinion,

697
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:05.679
that gives a more full vocal sound, great clarity, excellent

698
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.920
on the high range, the treble, the TSS and all

699
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.760
that stuff, but with a great resonance in the base

700
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:15.360
range down here someplace, and it keeps it.

701
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:16.719
Just takes it all to a new level.

702
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:18.960
I can back up from the thing and talk and

703
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:20.840
it will still sound great, or I can get right

704
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:22.800
on it and it will still sound good. The other

705
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:24.320
mic that I had, if I turned my head for

706
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:26.400
some reason, it sounds like I left the room, you know,

707
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:29.360
I was talking from a closet. But with the RI

708
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:32.719
three twenty, the range is great and this sound is

709
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:37.280
top notch. So look for some more things coming down

710
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.199
the pipe. We'll be back to doing live stream and

711
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:44.360
YouTube versions of the show as well. So there'll be

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that and a lot more fun stuff, fun stuff coming

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up fairly soon, actually so so have you enjoyed the

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show today? As always, it has been a treat bringing

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the program to you. It is always fun to do this.

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My thanks to Mike McDaniel for addressing and alerting us

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to the very real challenges that need to be addressed

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in quick order by the new administration with respected military,

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And as always, my special thanks to go out to

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you the listener. I too, hope you enjoyed the services

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and look forward to seeing you next time. I'm Dave

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Carter and I'll see you then.

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Thank you for listening to the Dave Carter Show. Don't

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forget to subscribe on iTunes so you won't miss a

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and tell us what you think. And on behalf of

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all of us at the Dave Carter Show and the

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Ricochet Audio Network. Thank you for listening.

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Lest I come