Oct. 5, 2024

VP Debate & FAFO with Whiskey Dave

Show Notes
Transcript

As Election Day draws near, who better than Dave and Dave to analyize events, deconstruct narratives, and have a laugh or two along the way. Whiskey Dave joins Ricochet's Dave Carter to sift through the Vice Presidential Debate between JD Vance and Tim Walz to highlight not only the salient points that were raised in the debate, but to ask whether debates in the current format and venues are even useful.

Then, the performance of the Biden / Harris Administration is examined when it comes to the cataclysmic carnage and wreckage of Western North Carolina,, Eastern Tennessee and portions of Georgia in the wake of Hurricane Helene.

Speaking of cataclysmic, the Obama / Biden / Harris / Blinken policy of American weakness in the face of Iranian aggression takes center stage as Whiskey Dave relates his own experiences in the region and his encyclopedic knowledgle of the cultural ethos of Israel as well as those who seek its elimination.

If you like hard-nosed analysis, tempered at times with a comedic touch, this episode is for you.

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Soldier storyteller, this story of Hell Razor.

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It's Dave Carter and this is the Dave Carter Show.

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Hey folks, and welcome to another edition of the Dave

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Carter Program, where we will be discussing all kinds of things,

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including the recent vice presidential debate with my guest, Whiskey Dave,

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and even get a few yucks and laughs along the way.

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But first, I got a question for you. In the

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course of reading through whatever the social media platform you prefer,

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have you ever come across the initials FAFO. I'd wager

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that you have, and I'm going to give you a

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variation on what those initials stand for for the purposes

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of our discussion today. Stand for a fool aroun find

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out all right now. I know there are other terms

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that are in usage popular usage, but the point remains.

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In other words, if you're dumb enough to poke a

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stick at the lion, you'll find out what happens next,

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and you won't like it. The lesson here, boys and girls,

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is that if you continually pick a fight and keep

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trying to slap an animal, a person, or even a

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country around, you may get your head handed to you.

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It's an age old concept, actually, and it's the definitive

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method of keeping oneself safe, one's community, and one's nation

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safe and secure. And to its eternal credit, the Nation

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of Israel has discarded the tired appeasement of the West

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in general and the US in particular, who insists that

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peace is only achievable through our continued weakness and capitulation

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to the barbarians of Ron's leadership and its proxies too,

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the Obama Biden Harris Blinken doctrine the evil butchers of

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Iran must be made affluent and powerful enough to dominate

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the region. It's not reasonable in the least. In fact,

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it's suicidal. But that's been the received wisdom of the

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Western progressive elites for quite a while now, and I

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think Prime Minister Netanyahu eventually had enough of that tripe

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and has resumed the policy of punishing the aggressor fully.

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And finally, Hezbollah's leadership, appropriately enough, has been decapitated, Hamas

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is being obliterated, and Iran's supreme weird beard is in

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hiding because you can only fool around and fire so

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many tens of thousands of rockets into a country and

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slaughter its citizens and acts of pre civilizational savagery before

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you find out what's going to happen.

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And that's what we did in World War Two and

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it worked.

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Today we enjoy outstanding relationships with our former adversaries. But

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first things first, you have to in the war. You

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have to punish the aggressor decisively. And if you think

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about it, the doctrine of deterrence rest on the ability

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and the will to exert decisive, asymmetric, and overwhelming force.

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It's the same with the schoolyard bully who doesn't learn

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much of anything until someone finally stands.

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Up and cleans his clock.

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It's the same in the foreign policy arena, and if

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you think about it a little bit further, it's the

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same in our cities and communities when it comes to

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rampant crime. How many of you know that I took

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a detour in life and wound up in Memphis, Tennessee,

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for what I refer to as my wilderness years. A

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while back, a once beautiful city has devolved into near

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pre civilizational anarchy by the incessant coddling and excusing of

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a population of grunting, moronic goons who roam about the

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place shooting rival, gang members, innocent bystanders, grandmothers, pastors, motorists,

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and then he was anyone else and their idiotic path

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because well, hell, even they don't even know why they

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do it. You know, they're they're just stupid. But they're

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not so stupid that they don't see the passivity of everyone,

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from the DA to the understaffed police departments, to the

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editorial pages and profit soil intonements that implore the locals

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to it understand the root causes of carnage, always using

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an approach that prioritizes equity over the right of law

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abiding citizens to go about their lives unharrassed and unthreatened

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by lawless jackasses. Here's the root cause. Okay, weakness begets aggression.

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It's it's just that simple. That's nature. And all of

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the trendy theories that you can think of have not

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superseded reality. During my stay in Memphis, I repeatedly observed

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that unless and until the National Guard is deployed to

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that asylum on the Mississippi with instructions to restore order

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quickly and definitively, this situation will only get worse. And

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it has, to its eternal credit, Israel has never stopped

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recognizing that law of nature. Oh, they've seated land from

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time to time, They've turned the other cheek until both

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cheeks are bloody, and they've watched their citizens get slaughtered

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by anti Semitic mobs who rejoice at the shedding of

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innocent blood. Israel has had enough, Biden blinking, and all

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the little appeasers of the left, all the little progressives

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that can be mustered, no longer holds sway. Israel is

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of necessity instructing the word the world on the efficacy

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of fafo fool.

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Around, find out which is I see?

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It makes Israel the current leader of the free world,

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at least until we can get a sentient and cognizant

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commander in chief who leads from a position of strength

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and not a position of fog banal word solids and

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the suicidal lack of will and stunted mental capacity.

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I go, Would you give me a hand with the bags?

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Serdly, you take the blonde and I'll take the one

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in the Timan.

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God shirw.

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Right joining us now is my friend of some two

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hundred and seventy five years now, Whiskey Dave can be

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heard on the radio nationwide, where he's a regular guest

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host on the Joe Massina's Real Side radio program. He's

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an extraordinarily gifted interviewer, notwithstanding the fact that he invites

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me on his show from time to time. But aside

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from that lapse in judgment, he's a dear friend and

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it's a privilege as always to welcome him to the program.

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Whiskey, Dave, how are you, my friend?

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I'm doing well. Dave loves the new bumper me sounds great.

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Well, thank you.

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That's half the fun in my life is putting that

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stuff together. I'm like a kid in the Candy story

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doing all that.

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Well.

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Thanks, thanks for being on the show today. I do

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appreciate it.

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Have you?

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Did you have a chance, uh to watch the vice

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presidential debate between jd Vance and Tim Walls?

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I did? I did?

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I mean, I think inarguably jd Vance took that and

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ran with it and did what he does best. You know,

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when you when you've had seventy one interviews and one

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of those interviews are from press that actually challenge the

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candidates to answer questions, this is this is the result

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you got. You got somebody that was exceptional and he

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was appealing to those that are in the mushy middle

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that just don't like Trump. And there many people that

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just don't like Trump, but they love the policies. And

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I think he gave people permission to vote for Trump

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that night.

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If you had, if you had to write a headline

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to summarize what you impression was of that debate, what

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how would how would that headline read?

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I guess the our word is no longer allowed and

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mixed company. But I think Tim Walltz is suffering a dusting.

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Of r.

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I mean, he's he's a very listen. I think Tim

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Walls is a very nice man. And if I had

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a if I had an eight year old that was

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learning flag football, yeah, I mean he could do okay

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on the sidelines as somebody that could be potentially running

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this country.

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I think he's just very weird.

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Those that was the weird And I'm not using that

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because that was the word that he came up with

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when he was first joining the campaign about But no,

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he's just very straight.

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Like he's body language.

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If you see him walking out, his arms are flailing

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and he's doing like the straight kicks and and he's

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you know, it's.

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Just I don't.

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People don't act like that physically. I don't know who

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acts like that. He's He's a very strange individual. And

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I don't understand why. Kamala, Kamala, Kamala. This was supposed

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to be her big decision, and she didn't go with

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Shapiro because he's Jewish apparently, and she chose him over

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Mark Warner in Arizona or others.

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It was a very strange decision.

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Dave.

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Well, from his u his verbal things he said, in

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the nonverbal accus he gave too, it gave the impression

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that was he was really out of his depth. And

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I could trace back, like you say, he's not had

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a lot of interviewers, but some of them when he

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would look at the camera, I swear, I mean, this

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is an old reference, but he looked like Dan Quail

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in a spelling beat, just like totally totally daring the

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headlights kind of thing.

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I wonder if he knows how to spell, if.

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You'd ask him, you get the gestures he do sign language.

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I guess you know, those of us on the on

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the right side of the political equation and them are

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used to seeing Republican candidates have to debate the candidate

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from the Democrats and the moderators who are anything but moderate.

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JD.

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Evans kind of took things to new level.

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Years ago, Nut Gingrich would reject the premise, the flawed premise.

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Of a lot of the questions, but JD. Evans took

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it to a different level.

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So let me set this up with a couple of

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sound bites and then get your reaction. The first is

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the moderator at the outset of the debate laying out

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the ground rules. So let's let our listeners hear for

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themselves what those rules were.

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Here we go, I'm Margaret Brennan.

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In order to have a thoughtful and civil debate, these

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are the rules that both campaigns have agreed to. Questions

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will be directed at one candidate, who will have two

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minutes to respond. The other candidate will be allowed two

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minutes for rebuttal. Then each candidate will get another minute

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to make further points, with an additional one minute each

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at the discretion of the moderator. The primary role of

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the moderators is to facilitate the debate between the candidates,

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enforce the rules, and provide the candidates with the opportunity

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to fact check claims made by each other.

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CBS News reserves the right to mute the candidate's microphones

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to maintain decorum. We have not shared the questions or

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topics with the campaigns. The stage is set, governor, senator,

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thank you for joining us. Let's get started.

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So the role of the moderators was to facilitate the discussion,

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but the fact checking fell into the purview of the

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candidates themselves. Now what followed was the conclusion of a

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statement or rebuttal that anybody made, but the moderator would

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after that statement was made with fact check. Jd Vance

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on the topic for quickly calling on the other moderator

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to ask the question. Kind of a hit and run

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kind of thing that they got away with it for

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a couple of times and then this happened.

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Thank you, Governor. And just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield,

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Ohio does have a large number of Haitian migrants who

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have legal status temporary protected Laura, thank you, senator.

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We have so much. I get to Margaret. I think

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it's important because of the economy. Thanks Margaret.

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The rules were that you got we're going to fact check,

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and since you're fact checking me, I think it's important

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to say what's actually going on. So there's an application

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called the CBP one app where you can go on

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as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for

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parole and be granted legal status at the wave of

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a Kamala Harris open border wand that is not a

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person coming in applying for a green cart and waiting

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for ten years.

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Thanks you the senatoration of.

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A legal immigration Margaret Bye, Thank.

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You Senator for describing the legal process. Have so much

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to get the Senator so.

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Much the book since nineteen ninety.

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Thank you, gentlemen.

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We want to have that app has not been on

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the books.

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Something gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics

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are cut. We have so much we want to get to.

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Thank you for explaining the legal process.

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Nora, and they wondered by people drink. So, Dave, what

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do you make of all that? What's your impression of

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what happened there?

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Well, it's the same thing that we saw that happen

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with the ABC debates with Trump and Harris. Here's the problem.

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The mainstream media is dead and I don't understand why.

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From a bigger picture, the Republicans still allow their candidates

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to go to what is ostensibly a DNC debate hosted

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by the DNC, ABC, CBS, NBC. They are in my

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mind DNC advocates. Ninety nine percent of the people that

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work in those buildings under the title of quote unquote

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journalists support the Democrats each and every single election. We

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saw it with Candy Crowley back in twenty twelve with

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Mitt Romney, which many people believe that costs the election.

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Here's the problem. If I was a Trump advisor and

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I was in the camp, I would say, look, you

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need to debate, but we no longer trust and we

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haven't trusted for thirty years, but now we have alternatives.

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There is no longer a commission of presidential debates. It

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is just basically the campaigns deciding, okay, which of the

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three legacy you know, Flagship Media, the Alphabet media, CBSABC,

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NBC should we go to, and then they just they

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stop short. They don't say okay, but we demand that

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we have so and so and so. You and I

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talked about this on my radio show a couple three

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weeks ago. My suggestion for both sides so that it

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is fair, so that people have trust in this process,

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is that each campaign, the Republicans and then the Democrats

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each get to choose their own moderator, and then for

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a to make it absolutely fair, each of those moderators

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that are selected sit in a cigar field room and

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they decide on the third neutral moderator. That way, you

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know that it is going to be unbiased. Because what

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we've seen in ABC and CBS is the end of

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journalism and the end of trust. Nobody believes in the

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media anymore. Why are they Why are the Republicans day

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allowing for this?

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That's my question.

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I think that that Trump was basically saying uh and

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and I guessed him uh uh dat events with him. Look,

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we're confident enough in the points that we make and

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our record.

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Over the last four years that you guys.

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Picked the venue and will still pick you apart. They forgot,

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as you so eloquently described, is that when you're not

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just going against the against the candidate, you're going against

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the moderators as well. Or they thought they could just

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come out ahead no matter what. And maybe there's some

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some validity to the point that the moderators are just

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discrediting themselves and actually discreditling the Democrat cause.

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By the way, they conduct themselves.

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It's listen, we've all been complaining about journalists and the

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mainstream media being certainly you know, leaning left, if not

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in some cases just outwardly being activists for the Democrats,

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you know. And one of the problems that we have

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with journalism today it isn't so much the activist approach

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that we saw in that last debate where they literally

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shut the microphone off on somebody that was making a counterfactual.

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Which turns out to be true.

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That program was implemented by the Biden Harris administration in

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twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, So it's not just that,

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it's also the types of questions that they ask. So,

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you know, what are we going to get with the

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Democrat led debate? And what I mean by Democrat led

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the ABCCBS is you're going to get abortion, climate change,

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You're going to get discussions on anything, you know, j six,

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anything that serves the Democrat argument.

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There was no discussion on China, right, Okay?

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Was the discussion on Ukraine and the amount of money

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that was being spent. Where was the discussion about our

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money is being transferred from one department to another, such

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as from DHS to FEMA or FEMA to DHS, to

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how's illegal immigrants And we've got hotels, you know, thirty

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forty fifty hotels that are chocolate block full of illegal

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immigrants just to New York City alunch, and how that's

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impacting hotel price. There's so many other questions that could

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be asked, but of course they're going to go into

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their own cocoon and talk about what they think is

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the most important, which is January sixth and a threat

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against my democracy.

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And I loved jd Vance's response.

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To that was that the bigger threat to democracy is censorship.

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You know, I was really I was disappointed he didn't

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bring up the Russian laptop issue that CBS was, you know,

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instigating along inter media.

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So in a sense, our debates, at least of the

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type that we saw with the alphabet networks hosting them,

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are they becoming obsolete? Then it's just anachronistic and would

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best to let the campaigns hash it out.

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No, I think debates are necessary.

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I think they are really good because you've got one

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party right now that is hiding literally in the proverbial

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basement like they did in twenty twenty and they're only

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taking softball questions.

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From known entities in the media that like them.

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So this is a chance for one side, the Democrats specifically,

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to actually be asked hard questions. Is the It is

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the format of why not have Joe Rogan do it right?

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Right, Let's get individuals that are neutral.

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Joe Rogan, who voted for Bernie Sanders, has certainly been

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calling out the left honestly in the past few years,

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had people like Tolci Gabbard, Neilon Musk on there. So

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let's have a neutral arbiter. But no, Dave, I think

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the debates are necessary.

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Okay, well that makes sense.

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What do you think would be the lasting impact on

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the elect or for the voters from the vice president

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presidential debate or do you think the impact will be

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subsumed in the ensuing headlines.

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Of the day.

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I think and other people have said this, I said

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it as well. I think what jd Vance did was

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he gave a very small sliver of people that are

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uncomfortable with Donald Trump the man the person for all

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the reasons that we know but don't like.

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Obviously, the results of the Biden Harris regime.

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For the past four years. We're all feeling it. We

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all see it every time we go to the supermarket.

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We all see it every time we turn on the

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news and see the border. And they just what jd

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Vance did was they gave He gave those people permission

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to vote for Trump.

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All Right. I may not like the guy, okay, but he's.

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Only going to be there for four years, and if

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jd Vance is the future of the Republican Party, I

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can get behind that.

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Yeah, there's a lot of people that are saying at

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the conclusion of the debate that jd Vance would be

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the heir apparent following Trump.

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Because he did a masterful job all around.

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I think it was exceptional. And he's young.

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He'll be just older than JFK was and Barack Obama

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he you know, in twenty twenty eight and twenty thirty two.

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I think he's going to be He's going to be great.

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But you know, the problem is is that many people

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didn't know anything about jd Vance other than what they

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heard in the mainstream media about him that he's you know,

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talking about catwomen and all these nonsensical issues that they

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turned into major stories. And for many people that was

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the first time that they saw him and you know what,

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he wasn't a bad looking guy he came across. He

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was very effectual, and he certainly made he certainly made

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Tim look like what I think he is is somebody

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with dusting of mental you know, challenges.

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Right, right, And he's not as so often happens when

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we have eloquent and articulate folks on our side, they're

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not the cartoon characters that the mainstream media makes them

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out to be. People could him and go, oh, wait

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a minute, this is thoughtful. This guy's making sense, and

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he's he's gracious about it too. Look at that, so

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yeah and speaking good.

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Sorry, yeah, No, it goes back to he gave people.

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He gave people permission to vote for him, especially suburban

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women who have been uncomfortable with Trump.

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And let's let's be honest.

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Okay, sometimes Trump makes it very very hard to defend him. Okay,

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we all of his policies, we all know the reasons why,

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but he certainly does not make it easy. There's been

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a lot of moments, especially in the debate that he

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had with Harris, where I was I was angry, I

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was I was really angry. I felt like he threw

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so many opportunities to the side. And and here's the question,

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Dave about Donald Trump. Okay, this is a man that

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